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Craig Laws
5.0 out of 5 starsIt takes the best selling smart speaker and makes it just a little bit better
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 29 October 2022
Two years have passed since I reviewed the Amazon Echo Dot Gen 4 and now we have the new Echo Dot Gen 5 so it’s time to revisit the world of Alexa.

If you’re familiar with Echo and Alexa, you’ll only be interested in the first part of this review and you can ignore everything after my device appraisal. I’m sure, though, that many people may be new to smart speakers so I’ve also added sections on how to install the Alexa app, how to set up your new speaker and what you can subsequently do with the Echo Dot. My apologies for going over things that you might already know and a lot of this repeats from my previous review, but there will be for which this is new territory.

The Device:
The Echo speakers have been around for many years now, and despite the best efforts of Google and Apple, Amazon’s Alexa still remains the smart assistant of choice. The most popular of all smart speakers is the Echo Dot. Other bigger and better sounding speakers are available including Amazon’s own larger Echo, but the Echo Dot has always hit a nice sweet spot of performance and affordability. The first couple of generations of Echo Dots were clearly toes in the water to see if we were ready for smart assistants. They gave us a glimpse of what could be achievable, but they didn’t sound particularly good. We’ve still got a couple of Generation 2 Echo Dots that live in the garage and shed, and they really do sound tinny and weak. That changed with the Generation 3 Echo Dot, of which we have seven around the house, as they sounded so much better. The sound was deeper and the volume could go much higher before losing fidelity. The microphone was also improved, and the entire experience with using Alexa made a big step forward.

Two years ago I bought an Echo Dot Generation 4 on release day, and shortly afterwards followed that up with the larger Echo. And today, the Generation 5 arrived. I’ve spent several hours since then playing with it, testing it out alongside my existing speakers and the very similar Generation 4.

So, what’s different between the Gen 4 and 5? Well, visually, not very much. The only real difference I could spot was the loss of an auxiliary port from the rear of the new device. Beyond that, no difference at all. I read from the press releases that the 5 is sonically much improved over the 4, but in side-by-side testing I struggled to see much difference between the two. If anything, I felt that Alexa’s voice when she’s talking to you seems like she’s stood a little further away. But it still sounds great. Not just great for the money, but great in general.

We have much bigger and better speakers in our house, but when listening to music we almost always play it through the Echo Dots. I’ve got a Bose speaker right next to the Dot in my office, but always use the Dot for music. I work from home and I’m in my office 9-16 hours per day, and the Echo Dot is on for most of that time. If you want the absolute best sound, you’re likely to want to spend much more on a dedicated sound system, but for general, everyday use, the Echo Dot is brilliant. Sound remained stable even at maximum volume, and just as good I found Alexa was able to hear my commands despite cranking the volume up.

Something new to the Generation 5 is the introduction of “tap to pause”. A quick tap on the dome of the Echo will pause your music. A simple addition, but so welcome. When someone rings me when I’m working a quick tap is so much better than yelling at Alexa to shut up before I can accept the call. Another tap will resume the music.

I have to say, even two years down the line, I still prefer the shape of the Echo Dot Gen 3. I just preferred the puck-shape, and it sat lower to the ground so didn’t obstruct the view of the monitors on my desk. The buttons for volume, action and turning off the microphone are on top of the globe are raised characters resembling a games controller. The status light is around the base of the speaker rather than the top on Gen 3 and earlier devices.

Setting up the Echo is, as usual, very simple. If you have a previous Alexa system them it connects straight to your existing network with no input at all. If it’s your first Echo device and assuming you have the Alexa app you go to Devices, Add, Amazon Echo, and wait for it to connect. The work of moments, and then it’s ready to go. Like the Gen 3 and 4 it uses its own power cable rather than a USB cable as the Gen 1 & 2 used.

So, the verdict? The RRP, and reviewed price, is £54.99 which is £5 more than the outgoing Gen 4. The tap to pause feature almost makes up that £5 for me. I read in early press releases that the new Gen 5 can also be used as a Wi-fi repeater in compatible mesh systems such as the Eero range, but I didn’t see anything further mention that in the Amazon sales page and I’ve not been able to test that out. Just like the Gen 4 before it, the Gen 5 will almost certainly become the biggest selling smart speaker on the market. I’ve been more than happy with it in my early time with it and find it to be a great albeit minor evolution of the previous Dot.

Once again though, the only real competition to Echo Dot is its own predecessors. The Gen 3 Echo Dot is still available at the time of writing. It’s almost as good to listen to, and I think looks nicer. It’s also quite a bit cheaper. Is the Gen 5 that much better than the Gen 3 to warrant the price premium? I’m not so sure, but I do like to keep up with the latest releases where possible.

Taken in isolation, the Gen 5 Amazon Echo Dot is an excellent smart speaker. I gave the Gen 3 and Gen 4 a five-star review, and the Gen 5 gets the same accolade. It will undoubtedly go on to be the best-selling product of its type.

How to set it up you Echo device:
If you’re new to the world of Alexa then you may be wondering how easy it is to set up an Echo device. If you’ve ordered from Amazon, they’ll helpfully email you a guide to setting it up. You’ll need the Amazon Alexa app, available from both the Apple App Store and Google Play Store. Download and wait for it to install, and then open it up. The app gives help on various subjects if you tap the question mark in the top right corner of the home screen. The guide on setting up your new Echo Dot is found in this area by selecting Alexa Devices, then Echo Dot, and Set Up Your Echo Dot.

As a quick overview though, plug in your Echo Dot (after a short period the status light will turn orange to show it is in Setup mode) and then open the Alexa app. On the bottom menus select “Devices”. On the Devices screen, tap the “+” button in the top right and choose “Add Device”. Select “Amazon Echo” and then “Echo, Echo Dot, Echo Plus and more”. Assuming your Echo is plugged in and the status light is orange, select “Yes”. The app will then search for your new Echo Dot and complete the setup. The whole process takes only a few moments, and then you’re ready to get creative with Skills and Routines.

What you can do with Alexa:
A smart speaker is actually quite dumb to start with. It’s when you start adding things that it becomes truly smart in my view. On its own, you’ll be able to ask Alexa questions, play a few games, set up alarms and reminders and get a weather forecast; the general things you’d expect from a home assistant. Remember to always begin every command with the wake word, “Alexa…”, which can be altered to “Amazon”, “Echo” or “Computer” if you wish. To do certain things and play games you need to enable “Skills & Games”, which is found in the “More” menu at the bottom of the app. In there, you’ll find hundreds of things you can do with Alexa. For example, I regularly play the BBC quiz shows Pointless and Tenable. “Alexa, what is the weather forecast” or “Alexa, give me a ten-minute countdown” are examples of simple commands.

As I say though, the Echo is just the gateway to a vast array of smart applications. How smart it goes depends on how far you want to go and how much to spend. What starts out as a single Echo device can quickly expand to a device in every room, attached to smart devices such as light bulbs, sockets, central heating and cameras. The first thing you may wish to use your speaker for is playing music. Echo is compatible with most of the main music streaming services such as Apple and Spotify, and of course Amazon Music. With your Echo you get access to Amazon Music’s free service, which is actually pretty good. It is limited, and you won’t find all of your favourite artists, but I recommend you try it out for a week or two as it might be good enough for your requirements. If not, I do highly recommend upgrading to Amazon Music Unlimited, or better still Amazon Music Unlimited Family which can be shared with multiple family members (not necessarily in the same household). I’ve not encountered many songs that aren’t on there. I used to have my iPhone full of mp3 music, but now I stream everything. “Alexa, play some 80’s rock” and I’m good for hours. If you have multiple speakers you can have the music played to one, many or all of them for house-wide coverage.

Philips Hue lightbulbs are fantastic devices. They’re very expensive compared to a standard LED bulb, but once you buy one and use it in conjunction with Alexa voice control you soon become hooked. We’re up to 30 Hue bulbs now, and I don’t regret a single purchase.

Smart sockets, such as Amazon’s own models or the TP-Link Kasa models, that I recommend, are great for controlling things like Christmas lights and lamps.

Your central heating can be controlled by Alexa if you have a suitable smart thermostat. I can ask “Alexa, what’s the temperature in the house?”, and having determined that it’s too cold, if my wife not wrapped head to toe in fleece blankets wasn’t enough, I can then say “Alexa, set the house to 20 degrees”.

Some door bells and cameras, such as Ring products, work with Alexa voice control also. “Alexa, show me the front door” and she’ll bring up live video on a suitable device like a Fire tablet or an Echo Show.

Many televisions also have Alexa integration too. Our LG OLED can be controlled by its built in Alexa.

A comprehensive smart home/automation is expensive, I’m not going to sugar that pill, but if it’s something that interests you then look out for these extra products on Black Friday deals would be my tip. All the devices I’ve mentioned and shown on my reviews were purchased from Amazon.

I’ll leave it there though as I’ve waffled long enough. I hope you consider giving the Echo Dot a try. I’m of the opinion that the worth of a gadget is in how much you use it, and we use our Echoes and Alexa frequently every day.
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Adrian Williams
3.0 out of 5 starsTemperamental and thick
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 14 March 2023
I sort of like the Alexa but there's still a lot of work to do.

Good:
- Can hear you easily and clearly for the most part, and comprehends simple commands with a decent degree of accuracy. Fairly fast responses
- Good at simple tasks, e.g. "Turn the light on, set timer for 15 minutes, cancel my current timer, take two minutes off my timer, add five minutes to my timer, snooze alarm for 15 minutes, remind me to clean the oven at 5pm, tell me the time, tell me how much time is left on my timer, add cheese to shopping list, remove cheese from shopping list."
- It will tell you if you try to add a duplicate item to any list
- It can buy things for you from Amazon without you needing to look at them, as long as you're happy to buy whatever the Amazon recommendation is for the product you specified
- It can answer some basic questions perfectly well, especially mathematical problems, the kind people struggle with (e.g. "what's 12 per cent of 40" "what day will it be on 4 March, 2024".
- A great way to set recurring reminders without having to pick a phone up and type them, or check your phone for them
- A great way to wake up in the morning, with music from Amazon music, or a radio station etc, at a set time
- A great way to access radio stations without fiddling with a dial
- A great way to shuffle music you like within a theme from Amazon music (free version). Specific songs if you have premium
- A great device for playing relaxing sounds, like rain, for about two hours to help you sleep
- Great hands free task setting, letting you keep going with whatever you are doing
- Good hearing, can usually hear you from across the room (in a fairly quiet room) if you speak up
- Good voice recognition - you can make commands while watching TV without it getting confused as you what you are saying and what is background chatter
- Good with location based weather and temperature updates, as well as traffic updates on specific roads. It can also tell you about current train strikes. Once you set your location you can ask 'what's the weather like here' and get a forecast for your area etc
- Can give you a news briefing on command from one of a few sources, including BBC and Sky
- Can connect to your smart devices and plugs, and turn them on and off hands free

Bad:
- Very bad at answering nuanced questions. Alexa has given me quite the wrong answer several times. It takes it answers from a questionable search engine (Bing?) and Amazon/Alexa answers, which is just not good. For example, I asked it if I could put my wooden plate in the microwave; Alexa said yes, and ruined the plate. Google is much better for those kinds of questions.
- Struggles with long or compound sentences even when they are important or common, such as "set an alarm for every Thursday at 10am".
- Very bad at deleting future reminders and alarms. Commands such as 'cancel my Thursday alarm' often don't work. It also does not recognise the simple construction 'cancel my next alarm', requiring you to be specific, which can take ages or may require you to remember specifics you don't recall precisely. It may also then list all your alarms, which is a classic example of Alexa rattling on at length uselessly, forcing you to cut it off (Alexa, stop!) and give up on the command (you can do it via the Alexa app instead). It is similarly bad with notifications, for the same reason
- Cannot understand some common and normal commands, such as "set a reminder to pay rent at 10am on the last day of every month" - it does not understand the concept of 'the last day of the month'.
- Babbles on with excessive and irrelevant detail when asked some questions
- Struggles to recognise the difference between a command and a question, e.g. 'can you cook chicken from frozen' may sometimes cause Alexa to tell you she doesn't know how to do that, or that she isn't connected to an appropriate appliance
- Often gives you entirely different answers when you rephrase the question very slightly. Often requires you to repeat the same request in several ways to get a proper answer. The top answer is mysteriously chosen - again, Google is better at picking the best answer to a question
- Has an unfortunate tendency to stop playing music if you tap it or knock it, regardless of whether you want this
- Cannot answer questions about its own status, such as 'what are you doing, why have you stopped' or an accurate answer to 'are you ok' (it says yes even when there's clearly something wrong).
- Sometimes struggles to recognise certain words, and the names of lists - will sometimes ends up adding new lists or bizarrely adding the name of your list to your shopping list, as if it's a product
- Is not great with regional accents, even my factory standard southern RP - mistook the term 'space heater' for 'space eater' and gave me a very odd definition indeed!
- Speaks when unwanted, just to apologise and give a boring explanation for stopping playing music ('Sorry, Amazon stopped playing music because there was no activity on your device'). Repeats this every time
- Stops playing music randomly, or stops due to inactivity even though 'inactivity' is to be expected when you're using your Alexa as a radio while busy doing something else
- Often does not react to the instruction to 'resume' (music) on the first try and requires you to shout at it
- Cannot do compound commands, such as "turn on the light and the dehumidifier". These instructions must be made one by one, which can be time consuming
- Totally ballsed up playback of a well established podcast, jumping back to an earlier point for no reason (with no ability to restore). I think Amazon music is likely to blame here, I have found it questionable on other devices, too
- Often the volume is much louder than you expect and commands to turn it down frequently fall on deaf ears. It does not appear to be a very consistent volume.
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Jon789
1.0 out of 5 stars This is a DOWNGRADE from previous model - YOU CAN'T ASK Alexa the temperature.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 10 March 2023
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I already had the 4th Gen version and bought this Gen 5 because it had a temperature sensor, however, you can't ask Alexa what the room temperature is. The only use of the temperature sensor is to make a routine that says if it goes above a temperature or below a temperature perform an action. Routines are awful, they don't even allow nesting, they are also slow, I think Amazon needs to invest more in it's cloud and servers.

I might have lived with this but there three additional problems.

1. Ability to hear my command
2. Sound Volume
3. Sound Quality

1. I have had numerous older Echo devices, the problem with the small flat ones was if you listen to radio echo cannot hear you so are unresponsive. The globe shaped Gen4 Echo solved this problem and the volume was higher. However, with this one the problem with it hearing is as bad as it was before.

2. Sound volume on this 5th Gen is far worse than 4th Gen, I literally unplugged one and plugged in replacement, I set volume to same as I have it every morning and it was far lower, even on max it is not good enough.

3. Sound Quality is not massive for me but the quality of Gen5 is not as good as previous models.

Amazon has a massive problem with network latency, you have to give the keyword by itself and wait, then give the command and wait, then after a period of time it comes back and often gets it wrong. I thought this was my internet but it is AC wifi with sub 20ms latency and my son had same issue.

I see tear downs of Echo on YouTube and it seems more is invested in Amazon Mesh network chip, yet we have not consented to that use nor do we have any control. I am seriously looking at alternatives and will sell the two of these (one was a gift) on eBay.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Echo Dot 5: A Disappointing Upgrade from the Echo Dot 3
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 5 February 2023
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I must say that I am thoroughly disappointed with the device. Compared to the previous version, the Echo Dot 3, the Echo Dot 5 falls short in several important areas that greatly impact its everyday use.

One of the biggest issues I've encountered is with the microphone. The Echo Dot 5 only has one mic, which makes it challenging for the device to accurately pick up my voice. This means that I often have to repeat my commands several times or shout for the device to hear me. This is a major drawback compared to the Echo Dot 3, which had multiple mics that allowed for much better voice recognition and understanding.

While the speaker on the Echo Dot 5 has been improved in terms of volume, the sound quality leaves much to be desired. The bass has been emphasized, which makes the overall sound more bassy, but it also results in a muddled and unbalanced audio experience. The bass overpowers the other frequencies, making it difficult to properly enjoy music or any other audio content. Some people may prefer the more bassy sound, but for those who want to listen to music with accurate sound, a standalone speaker would be a better choice.

The design of the Echo Dot 5 has improved, but the sphere shape of the device takes up more space on a table or shelf and doesn't have the same sleek look as the Echo Dot 3. While the sphere shape may appeal to some, it's not ideal for those who want a compact and unobtrusive device.

In conclusion, I am greatly disappointed with the Echo Dot 5. While there have been some improvements made, it falls short in key areas compared to the Echo Dot 3. The single mic, subpar sound quality, and spherical design make it a less desirable option for everyday use. For those who want a better voice recognition and audio experience, I would recommend the Echo Dot 3 or a different device entirely.
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Grumpyom
1.0 out of 5 stars Wouldn't set up
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 7 April 2023
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Unable to get the device to set up, kept dropping out of set up mode saying to refer to Alexa App for help - which was of no help at all. Tried using chat, but no solution forthcoming. Even tried reserving MAC address in router, and power cycling router, all to no avail. So don't know if I was doing something wrong (all other devices I've connected have worked) or whether Amazon are adopting the Sinclair ZX80/Timex factory approach - let the consumer do the testing and accept a number of DOAs.
Very disappointed, wasted far too much time on it and will probably never know for sure if the item was defective or incompatible with my router or I just didn't grasp the (woefully inadequate) documentation supplied and help accessible.
Have returned item(s) and will not be seeking a replacement - or an alternative.
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Amazon Customer
1.0 out of 5 stars Feels like Alexa just getting worse
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 5 February 2023
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The supposed improved sound quality just isn't noticeable, like it can't actually run Amazon Music HD like my much older echo dot can. The built-in eero simply doesn't work at all and I've given up trying to make it happen. This is one for returning and I don't know how much patience I have left for the Alexa assistant, which only ever seems to get worse and never better, all while recording everything I do and say.

One feature that worked straight out of the box was the one they didn't even bother advertising(you can guess why): the use of ultrasound to record movements. This was turned on by default despite there being no other device in my home it could have helped and I have repeatedly refused Alexa's annoying frequent suggestions that I set-up routines, which appears to be the justification for this feature.

All these design choices by Amazon imply they are for the benefit of the company, not it's customers.
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C and J
1.0 out of 5 stars Amazon Admit Poor Shelf Life
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 23 May 2023
Colour Name: CharcoalConfiguration: Device OnlyVerified Purchase
In the words of Amazon Customer services in response to my 3 devices that all mysteriously broke on the same day...

"please note, these devices do tend to last for about five years before they are due to be upgraded"

Strange that despite different ages all 3 died at exactly the same moment.
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Iain Tomas
1.0 out of 5 stars Useless
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 9 May 2023
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Essentially useless
A deliberate decision by Amazon to severely reduce the ability of its music service to perform as required.
CANNOT play as requested, only with unwanted shuffling of (not similar) music.
Cannot play any musical composition in sequence (concept, classical, other).

Insist on shuffling unwanted, irrelevant, objectionable tracks (irritating but also frightening when device is used by children)
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ian
1.0 out of 5 stars It's gimmick.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 5 April 2023
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If you have a paid for music account then I can see the attraction in have one but if you do not then it is very disappointing. Spotify and Amazon music will offer you a minimal service over which you have very control as to what is played.

Plays radio stations ok but so does a radio.

My conclusion is that it is a gimmick. It's attempting to fill a hole in our lives that doesn't exist.

I got a refund.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Shocking
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 25 May 2023
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Bought this so that my child can play his favourite songs using my amazon music account. Turns out Alexa will not play the requested songs and only shuffles similar songs unless I pay for amazon music unlimited.
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Harry Baker
1.0 out of 5 stars Absolutely awful
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 31 December 2022
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Don’t waste your time or money.

Disconnects all the time, takes forever to reconnect, if it’s disconnected it will turn off and not run alarms etc - what’s the point.

If you want to show off turning a lightbulb on and off with your voice, great! Anything else you want or think is convenient - you already own and it actually works.

- alarm use your phone
- music use your phone & speakers/headphones
- lightbulb on and off use the switch on the wall
- automatic lights use an automatic timed sockets if you want it for security or whatever

Biggest waste of money ever and having owned it for a couple of weeks I can tell you this will just gather dust it is completely useless and a gimmick. Worst of all it requires spending £1000’s to be fully functional (you need to buy even more gimmicks to be able to say this is useful and functional).
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AS
1.0 out of 5 stars Be warned
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 28 April 2023
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Please be aware that despite what the may read or presume from reading the specification that this isn’t currently compatible with ‘EERO built in’ in the UK. That means you can’t use it as a WIFI extender to your EERO mesh system. I was misled so please don’t make the same mistake!
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